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Talking about depression: "snap out of it"

Photo of Natalie, a Time to Change bloggerImagine someone in a wheelchair being told to get up and walk. You couldn’t envisage anyone being so insensitive. Imagine someone suffering with depression being told to ‘snap out of it’ or to just ‘smile’.

Like the first comment, if it was that simple do you not think they would have tried?You’re asking them to do the impossible: they just don’t have the strength.

Mental health discrimination: I was accused of being an attention seeker

Photo of Rebecca, a Time to Change bloggerI wanted to write and talk about my experiences of depression and discrimination as a young adult. I started self harming when I was 16 and had recently started Sixth Form College. My parents were told and they were shocked and disgusted. I was punished for this and had my MP3 and my television taken off me. I was accused of being an attention seeker and this event ruined my A level grades.

Mental health discrimination: the last taboo?

Photo of Stephen, a Time to Change bloggerAs a student I am proud to say that no matter how many times we hear the negatives of “the youth of today” that we as a generation are more accepting.

Homophobia and racism though still existing are breaking down and giving way to a generation of those like me who accept and embrace others regardless of their beliefs and we celebrate that diversity.

We should educate children about mental health discrimination, but first we must start with the adults.

I do not work in a school environment but I do have two daughters - one still a teenager and one who is a young adult.

Over the years, I have heard the use different words to describe friends and peers. I have taken each word on its merits and I guess on whether or not it has ‘pushed my buttons’.

Words that children and teenagers use are not generally meant in an unkind way when they are said as part of banter ... The problem arises I think when they are used to hurt deliberately

Depression at work: keeping quiet

Photo of Jules, a Time to Change bloggerI have spent the last decade of my working life trying to prove that I am not a failure and trying not to admit that I might be, by forcing myself to keep quiet about my depression. The Time to Change project has made me think about this a lot, raised questions within me and forced me to confront my own contribution to stigma. I am talking primarily about the stigma towards mental health in the workplace.

Village blog from a purple haired-newbie

AJ blogs for Time to ChangeSo, I’m sat on the sofa on a Sunday morning, bleary eyed and (Time to Change) mug of hot chocolate in hand, digesting what happened the day before. Yesterday I came out to the public as 1 in 4. I didn’t know what to expect, or how I would react... never mind the reaction of those I told my story to! But let me tell you this, I was not expecting the result I got from being part of the Time To Change Village on Southbank.

“What have they got to be depressed about?”

Paul Brooks blogs for Time to ChangeI want to apologise to Robbie Williams.

This may seem an odd statement, as the Take That star and I have never met and I haven't done anything to upset him. But a few years ago I remember hearing that he was depressed, and thinking to myself: "What's he got to be depressed about? He's rich, famous, talented, successful - yep, it must really be terrible being him."

From both sides: my experience of mental health as a nurse and patient

Paula, Time to Change bloggerI worked as a Nursing Assistant in Acute Mental Health, Elderly Mental Health & Forensic Mental Health since 1989 to 2007. Within this time I was seconded to university to study to become a Registered Mental Health Nurse. This is where my eyes began to open regarding my own mental well being.

Is there a North/South divide in attitudes towards mental health?

We asked three bloggers to tell us about the different attitudes to mental health they've experienced where they live.

http://mapsof.net/map/english-north-south-divide

Lol – North

Climbing a mountain: my fight against discrimination

Photo of Ben NevisOh my god, am I mad? Probably, but I don't really care. I have made the decision to climb Ben Nevis next year, to raise money for MIND. My husband and son have been away fishing for the weekend, and I have just phoned him to tell him the news! Bless him, I think he's scared to leave me to my own devices for long as he never knows what I will come up with next!

Are we really creating awareness if we just say "yes I'm fine"?

Black and white photo of our blogger Fiona | Mental health blogsI just read a post by a good online friend (one I have been lucky enough to also meet in real life albeit over a year ago), the lovely Clive Edwards.

"To my utter amazement a letter arrived from Gordon Brown" - how speaking out can help to make a difference

Blogger Claudette Lawrence on mental health stigma and campaigningIn 2007 I was managing a women’s refuge. I was really enjoying my job and was very passionate about it. However I was having some problems with work colleagues and bullying.

Love and lithium: living with bipolar disorder

Time to Change blogger Rebecca Jewitt

Like my gender, sexuality, occupation, and the colour of my skin, Bipolar Affective Disorder doesn’t define my whole identity, but it is a significant part of it. Though therapy and medication have stabilised my day-to-day moods, my condition remains an intrinsic part of me and of how I experience the world. And I wouldn’t have it any other way – because I am me.

Coming out in home and society; Social change and mental health

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I have always thought that the mental health scene mirrors the movement for Gay Rights in very many ways. 

I just had a phone call from my boss. I've been fired. Wow.

When I saw the story about Roy (find him on Twitter @badlydrawnroy) and his experience of work place discrimination, I couldn’t help but be shocked and awed.

I was shocked that when he disclosed his mental illness (depression) to his boss, her reply was:

We're a small company, there's no room for passengers.

The fear of stigma

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I have depression, and sometimes one of the hardest things is the thought that there isn’t somewhere or someone I feel truly safe to talk through my experiences with.

Seeing the world differently: my experiences helped me become more caring

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My name is Sitara. I am 22 and live in the south west of England with some other girls. I love to drink tea, sing, and am currently training to be a teacher. I also have a mental illness. I suffer from anxiety, depression and post-traumatic stress disorder. It’s something that I have found really hard: each day is different and each day is a challenge 

School fails mental health test

I am subject to a gagging order. My employers thought it prudent to offer me a settlement and silence me by contract to ensure that I never utter a seditious line.

So here we go. I will tell you what I know.

For eight years I worked as a teacher. I was considered popular, if a little eccentric, with staff and students alike. Management had even described me as inspirational! I was involved in all aspects of the work from classroom teaching to organising school sports teams, overseas trips and excursions in the great outdoors.

Every week should be anti-bullying week!

“People, don't you understand,
The child needs a helping hand?
Or he'll grow to be an angry young man someday.
Take a look at you and me,
Are we too blind to see?
Do we simply turn our heads
And look the other way?”

Why a ‘nutty’ pop star is my idea of a real man

Time to Change blogger Paul BrooksWhen I was a young boy, pop star Adam Ant was one of my heroes. My dad delights in recalling how I used to jump off our sofa, emulating the highwayman’s leap onto a horse in the video for Stand and Deliver, which I loved watching on Top of the Pops.

Opening up

Photo of Catherine by Imelda Michalczyk at http://www.rebeladelica.comIn February 2009, I was sectioned, tranquilised and detained in a secure psychiatric hospital. Fortunately, my stay was short; after seven days, I was given a week’s leave at home, following which I was discharged.

A birthday wish for schizophrenia

Unhappy birthday cakes for schizophrenia's 100th anniversaryIt’s now 100 years since the term “schizophrenia” was first used, but with so many people affected by the condition still getting a raw deal in almost every area of their lives and still suffering from stigma and discrimination, sadly it’s not much of a happy anniversary.

My employment journey

James, Time to Change bloggerMental health challenges have affected my employment (and employability) ever since I was unceremoniously discharged from the army following a dramatic breakdown at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. Within hours I was hospitalised and subsequently diagnosed with schizophrenia aged just eighteen.

Stigma: The barnacle that sticks

Mark Brown blogging for Time to changePeople sometimes question why we need to focus on the 'stigma of mental illness' when we already have ideas like discrimination and prejudice. People ask; 'Aren't you just inventing a new kind of prejudice that only applies to people with mental health difficulties? Surely it's more important to change laws than change attitudes?'

When the stigma is harder than the illness itself...

Time to Change blogger LauraThe Time to change campaign is so so important as many people suffering from mental health problems feel the stigma and discrimination attached to having a mental illness is harder to cope with than the illness itself.

A meeting of great minds

NikkiLast Tuesday, Time To Change held a Lived Experience networking event at London’s RichMix venue; it was an opportunity for Time To Change supporters with lived experiences of mental health issues to come together to share ideas, make contacts and talk about future plans. I sit here, having just arrived home from the event, and the only word I believe truly describes how I feel about the event is…awesome.

Equality Act 2010 - Answering an employer’s questions about health

Pauline Dall is Head of Mind's Legal Unit and leads on our Time to Challenge work, which provides legal support for people experiencing discrimination as well as information for employees and employers.  Here, she talks about the new Equality Act and how it affects your rights to disclose or not to disclose when applying for jobs.

'Button Forest' to challenge stigma and discrimination

Try shutting your eyes and imagining a life sized forest constructed out of chicken wire with thousands of brightly coloured buttons as the leaves. It sounds completely mad but we are making it a reality! The Button Forest is an ambitious and unique art intallation project which aims to challenge stigma and discrimination. Each button represents a person who has a mental illness. When people walk through the forest it will be a powerful demonstration that as many as 1 in 4 people will suffer from a mental illness during their life.

Getting moving on World Mental Health Day - what a day!

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What an honour it was to spend World Mental Health Day with Olympic gold medallist Philips Idowu on our walk through Camden to the fantastic Time to Get Moving event at the N1 shopping centre in Islington. We were met on arrival by some great Bollywood dancing, which got the crowds active and the message across.

And I learnt some fascinating triva from Philips en route too - did you know that he can jump the length of a bendy bus?! His amazing athletic skills aside, it's fantastic to have Philips on board supporting Time to Change.

'Bedlam' at Shakespeare's Globe - a Time to Change Champion's view

Time to Change Champion Kate Wilkinson reviews Shakespeare's Globe's production of 'Bedlam' and reflects on how attitudes and treatments have changed...

Don't Get Me Wrong - Erik on the airwaves

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I was in the radio studios again yesterday talking about our new campaign, which aims to show how stigma and discrimination affects people in everyday life. And I was privileged to have the opportunity to work with our new Time to Change pin-up boy, Erik, the star of the latest burst of our campaign. Ruby Wax calls herself the 'poster girl for depression' having featured in our campaign last year, so I think it only fair we call Erik our pin-up boy!

Erik's Story

Erik tells us about his experiences with mental health stigma and why he chose to work with Time to Change on a social experiment.

Erik, 30, was born in the Netherlands. He moved to London three years ago to start work as a lecturer.He is currently recovering from his second bout of severe depression, which started about a year and a half ago.

Are the times a-changing?

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In the last few days we have been part of a media debate about Shirlena, the X Factor contestant who has been pulled from the show because she has a mental health problem.

Sustaining the change: our plans for the future

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It's been a busy period at Time to Change as we plan for a second phase of the programme. As many of you will know, we're currently funded by the Big Lottery Fund and Comic Relief until September 2011- but we have always had a longer-term vision.

The international anti-stigma family

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While Time to Change works within England, stigma and discrimination affect people with mental health problems worldwide - and we think of ourselves as being part of an international family of anti-stigma programmes. Over the last few years we have been proud to support campaigns in other countries as they get off the ground by sharing our learning - and in the last few weeks, we have welcomed two new additions to the family!

Celebs speaking out about mental health aren't jumping on a bandwagon - they're helping to change attitudes

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I just had my first 'live' sighting of our Frank and Trisha tube posters on the District line. It's a busy media environment but I feel that visually they stand out. I'd be really interested to hear what you think of them and what kind of reaction you've seen on the tube and in cinemas as people have seen our advertising.

On the campaign trail

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This week, we continued on the campaign trail to encourage people to sign up to our pledge.

First stop on Wednesday was the Briggate, one of the main shopping streets in Leeds, where we were lucky enough to work with some real anti-discrimination heroes.

Frank Bruno's story

In 2003, Frank Bruno was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. He believes events in his personal life contributed to the breakdown. “Build-up of pressure - marriage breaking up, someone you love dying - it's like having three radios on at the same time."

Ending mental health discrimination in parliament

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I'm delighted to report that the Government has made a commitment to address the discriminatory provisions in existing legislation which means that an MP automatically loses his or her seat if detained under the Mental Health Act.

The current legislation requires MPs who have been detained under the Mental Health Act to stand down and abolishing this would be a positive step towards tackling stigma and discrimination.

On the Coast of Devon the "Dreaded 'Lurgi' Struck"

I have swine flu, AND whilst I'm more than happy to receive your messages of sympathy I'm wallowing in a vat of self pity the size of the Watford Gap which is hardly admirable, thus I hardly deserve your kind words. (grin)

Story of an END Involvement Worker - Ivan Jarunek

Ivan Jarunek has been an Involvement Worker with Time to Change's Education Not Discrimination project for around a year. He tells us about his work with the project, which provides anti-stigma training to medical students, trainee teachers, and senior teaching staff.

Why On Earth Do You Bother?

“Why on earth do you bother? You don't even get paid.” This is something which has been said to me a lot this past year when I talk about my Activist role, and it has meant that I have actually sat back and considered my motivation, thought about what I think being an Activist can achieve, and equally importantly what it does for me.

Britain's Got Problems

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So mental health is back in the news. Why? Britain's Got Talent of course - doesn't all the current news come from crooked M.Ps and BGT? I'm sat here listening to a supposed expert waxing lyrical over the mental state of a woman she has never met, never mind examined. So Susan Boyle has been assessed under the provisions of the Mental Health Act, an entirely sensible measure, how could a woman from West Lothian who was unknown to most of us three months ago and who has been thrust into a world she is entirely new to, be expected to cope on any level.

Why Some Of Our TV Soaps Need To Clean Up Their Act

Easter Monday's episode of Coronation Street saw a throwaway remark by the character 'Peter Barlow' spark some anger with viewers when he referred to matriarch 'Blanche Hunt' as being dressed as a "mental patient" when she'd unwittingly turned up a few weeks early for a murder mystery weekend dressed as Amelia Earhart.

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Discrimination doesn't have to be direct abuse that is in your face, instead it can often be softly spoken, even whispered and seeps into us, becoming part of our world.

Churchill is summoned - The alternative history

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With the report on “The World without the Fantastic Five" being published I wonder how events in history might have unravelled slightly differently given today's attitudes:

The scene is Buckingham Palace, 10th May 1940, King George VI has summoned Winston Churchill...

CPS - good news!

Just heard about this review which makes for some reassuring news:

Reported in various places including here

"The decision to abandon a prosecution because of the victim's mental instability involved a misapplication of the Code for Crown Prosecutors, was irrational and was a violation of the victim's rights under art 3 of the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms."

Its about B who had a history of psychotic illness - so the CPS decided B couldn't be put before a jury.

Crown prosecution service consultation

Just to let you know that there's a current consultation (ending March 1st 2009) on the Crown Prosecution Service's website, that wants your views.

Its about their Policy on prosecuting criminal cases involving people with mental health problems and/or learning disabilities as victims and witnesses

Heaven and Hell in a Padded Cell

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On Sunday and Monday, the 25th and 26th of January, I took part in a publicity stunt for “time to change" and boarded a tram with a difference.

Sigma project - February 09

I've met with Jim and his colleagues again for another interesting chat about how to take things forward.

He gave me some information about lay visitors and I wonder if this is something more of us should get involved in? They're independent members of the local community who visit police stations unannounced to check on the welfare of people who are in police custody.

No Shame in Sheffield!

It was an amazing opportunity to be involved in the Time To Change stunt which took place on a working Sheffield tram on 25th and 26th of January. It felt controversial, we were presenting the people of Sheffield with a tram compartment redesigned as 'padded cell', a symbol which is associated with the more negative aspects of mental health, we were thrusting it upon them and almost forcing comment, and that was challenging and exciting.

A Depressive is for Life

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Here's a piece of information which might make one or two recoil in shock. For the most part you couldn't spot a depressive from any other member of society; you might need to get very close to someone before it became apparent.

Media Democracy and the civil rights movement for adult survivors of child abuse

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The right to “freedom of expression" is enshrined by article 19 of the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. It is a right that in the largely democratic West many of us take as read.

So Much More Than A 'One in Four

There's a growing sense of excitement around the entire Time To Change Project. A genuine sense that we really could be seeing the beginnings of what could turn out to be one of the most revolutionary changes in the way in which mental health is perceived within our society! It's exciting, innovative, ambitious, and it's great to be involved with the project!

M.E.one in four = Margaret from Cumbria.

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My name is Margaret, and I receive treatment and support from the Mental Health services from where I live. I don't know how everyone else likes to be known, but I have no problem at all calling myself a service user.

As for many years that has always been, and Yeah, lots of times in my past, I lost any dignity I owned and there were times when I felt "drugged up" to my eyeballs, but today is where I am and where I enjoy to be.

Building bridges

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Q: What makes a mental health service user different from anyone else?

A: Nothing.

This is the issue I want to address in this blog.

Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before...No Actually Don't‚ Just Tell Someone Else Who Hasn't

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Stop me if you've heard this one before...no actually don't. Having a mental illness makes finding work hard. This might sound many things; astounding, sad, ridiculous, perverse, surprising, frightening, unlikely, justifiable, understandable or just blindingly obvious. You might secretly feel something you would not publicly air. It's nothing to be ashamed of, we all have overt or latent prejudices, but it is most certainly something to be aware of and to open your mind about.

Starting employment: The reporter's story

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In the 1990s during my A-Levels I developed ME/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome after three-weeks of type A or B influenza caused my immune system to collapse and never recover. I didn't get diagnosed for some years, so had to drop out of university, and suffered a “breakdown" more properly known as a major depressive episode.

My BDP diagnosis and my friends reaction

Hello. Thanks for visiting my blog. It's a bit odd for me to write with a focus (or even slant) towards stigma and discrimination as these are a relatively minor part of my lavish mental illness experience.

Tom's story

"I'm Asian and I'm gay. I face discrimination every day, but not for the reasons you're thinking of."

You might think that Tom experiences stigma because of his race and sexuality. But it was after his brother's suicide, when he experienced stigma because of his mental health problems.

Tom says: "After my brother died, I was diagnosed with depression. My family has always been very supportive of each other and I was able to talk openly about my illness."

But at work, Tom's experience was quite the opposite.

Robert's story

Robert has had Bipolar Disorder since he was nineteen. His family desperately tried to help - but shame and embarrassment about mental illness always made talking difficult. He had depression for over a decade. And despairing of a normal existence, he nearly ended his life.

Sigma against stigma

At the recent Social Inclusion Network meeting, Constable Jim Scotson, the Hate Crime Officer for Merseyside Police based St. Helens, described the work of the Hate Crimes Unit, which is locally known as the ‘Sigma' unit. <--break->The title of Sigma was carefully chosen. Sigma is a letter from the Greek alphabet and symbolises the work of the unit in recognizing and protecting all vulnerable members of our society whilst seeking to continuously improve the service the police provide to victims.

Margaret's story

In this sometimes chaotic, fast moving world we all live in, I hear so many times from people, many of who I mix with, that 1in 4 people suffer sometime in their lives with mental health problems. I am 57 year old woman and just one of the many women that have mental health problems. I live independently alone, not necessarily lonely. My home is a flat within a building of five flats. My neighbours see me as I see them: as a friend, I can talk and listen, chat and laugh, help one another in any way which we need to.

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